Found myself in a verbal disagreement with a libertarian today. Which was disconcerting, because just based on etymology, I’d assume I’d be in agreement with anyone self-identifying with a variant of the root word ‘liberty.’
Indeed, I’d even self-identify as having libertarian sympathies, or leanings – putting myself somewhere on that ideological spectrum, tending toward “leave me alone, Uncle Sam.”
But ‘leaning’ isn’t good enough, I think, for the average libertarian. The average libertarian, at least those of my acquaintance, are ideological purists; libertarianism must be an absolute, from their point of view. Anything less isn’t good enough.
Ideologically pure libertarianism doesn’t mean limited government, it means no government; or at least no government as far as regulation is concerned. Governments are for organizing militias, the reasoning seems to go. The rest of society can organize itself.
Today’s discussion revolved around environmental regulation; something I feel pretty strongly about: favoring the little we have and wishing we had lots more. There’s nothing ideological about that stance, just a yearning for less poison in our air, water and food.
“It’s not the government’s business to be regulating that stuff,” said the Libertarian. It’s a line I’ve heard before, almost word for word. I usually respond by asking then whose business is it? and am usually treated to a discourse on the corrective nature of free markets (poisonous air, water and food are bad for business, therefore…)
This time I responded with “Sez who?” which sounds punk-ish, but I honestly didn’t mean it that way. I truly wanted to know: according to whom is regulation not the business of government?
I’ll turn that question on its head, by answering its inverse: Who says that governments should be in the business of creating regulation? Why, the U.S. Constitution, and all of historical precedent.
A broad statement, but easy to prove. Every government, ever, has regulated civil enterprise. The vast majority of those made no distinction between this and the rest of their law-giving.
Were some of those governments more successful than others? Sure. But you’d be hard-pressed to ascribe the fall of any of them purely to the ways they regulated their markets.
The constitutional argument is almost as easy: Article 1 Section 8 grants the government the power to regulate interstate and international commerce. It’s my opinion, and I think it’s a fair and reasonable one, that just about the entire federal regulatory body is authorized under the Commerce Clause.
Many would say that’s a stretch, indeed would say that by making that stretch, by regulating that is, the government is defying the Constitution, as per the “powers not enumerated revert to the state” doctrine. If the framers didn’t specify specific regulatory parameters, then it’s up to the states, not the federal government, to do so. So says the strict-constructionist wing of the libertarian movement.
But again, I say, centralized regulatory authority has been the norm throughout history. If the Framers had thought that undesirable, it’s certain they would have spelled that out. The absence of language regarding regulation, beyond the Commerce Clause, doesn’t prove the Framers disdained it. It proves they understood and accepted what all those other countless governments knew: governance is regulation.
So I say to the libertarians, the unyielding dogmatic ones, that the paradigm you argue for defies constitutionality, and there’s no evidence – none – that it works. It’s never been implemented outside anarchic zones: places where government by definition did not exist. Outcomes in such places are seldom pretty. Correlation isn’t causation, though, so I won’t blame the outcomes on whatever (totally) free markets that might have existed or thrived in that anarchy. But by the same token, I can’t imagine the markets did much good either.
So it’s a dangerous experiment, and an unlawful one, that the libertarians want to subject us to. One that would have far, far many more losers than winners. I want nothing to do with that experiment.
I’m for liberty. I’m for commerce, too. To the extent that the self-described libertarian will say that government infringement on these things should be “minimal,” then he and I can agree, and can sort out the definition of minimal later. But to the extent that he uncompromisingly insists on dogmatic libertarianism, then I reject him as every radical should be rejected. Radicals are always dogmatic, and their ideas are always dangerous.
Thanks for the article. I do think you should get a sense of what Libertarians are doing instead of talking to newbies.Start with the SMILE agenda.
For info on people using voluntary Libertarian tools on similar and other issues worldwide, please see the non-partisan Libertarian International Organization @ http://www.Libertarian-International.org ….
Hi Rob – first off, please accept my most sincere thanks for the tone and content of your response. You’re respectful and friendly, with a desire to inform. That makes you a rare gem in this electronic public forum of ours. Couldn’t be happy to have you here at the Deconstruction.
As to your point, you’re right: I based all the conclusions in this piece on my acquaintance with a few vocal, self-described Libertarians, who-to the best of my knowledge- are somewhat “isolated” in their thinking and alignment. Does that make them newbies? Never really thought of it that way, but I’m willing to accept your premise.
Because what I neglected to do, and you’ve helped to set this right (or at least helped point me in the right direction) – is to check out the thoughts, agenda, etc. of the Libertarian “establishment” (for want of a better word). Your LIO is clearly a great place to start; there’s a lot to take in there, but I’ve started a good faith effort to do so. I figure it’s the least I can do: if I’m willing to criticize the idealogy, I should at least learn as much as I can about it.
Starting, as per your suggestion, with SMILE. It’s intriguing. At this early point, I haven’t learned much about it other than the definition. I can honestly say there’s nothing in there I’ve seen so far I disagree with.
For the record, and for the edification of our other readers, here’s a blurb on SMILE lifted from the website http://www.libertarianinternational.org/ :
“LIO is a set of advisory and encouragement networks along SMILE lines. Its mission is to promote peaceful voluntary associations, notably in public administration, as engines of betterment. It is all- volunteer, non-partisan, and neither accepts nor donates money. The focus is highlighting valuable tools and processes, not issues per se.
“The SMILE program is the LIO world platform and refers to encouraging dialogue on rights-based, voluntary and pro-active options in:
“1.Space/Sea/Garden Earth-democratic Improvement
2.Machine/Management/Thought tools
3.Improve Lifestyle: Individual & Team
4.Life Extension & User-Directed Health
5.Empowering Lib-interested networks and LIO model eco-community of strict voluntarism, rights-based law and substantial non-tax proactive services”
So I’m doing my best to learn more. I won’t promise to be converted, but I’ll approach the subject with an open mind. That’s the best we could ask from anyone, isn’t it?
So again, thanks for sharing. Please accept this open invitation to respond here, or anywhere you like on the Deconstruction, for a free and constructive exchange of ideas (and ideals). Cheers!